De Amerikaanse studenten hebben de volgende vragen voor jullie over Anne Frank, de tweede wereldoorlog en jodenvervolging, gevoelens jegens Duitsers, en anti-Semitisme:
Anne Frank:
- How much do you know about Anne Frank and her story/her diary? Have you read her diary or parts of it? Did you read it in school?
- Have you ever been to the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam? Has your family been there?
- Would you say that Anne Frank is a famous historic figure in your country? Do you hear her name mentioned a lot?
Holocaust and World War II:
- Do your parents or grandparents ever talk about the war still? Have you learned about the Holocaust in school? What have you learned?
- How much have the war and the Holocaust impacted your life and life in your country?
- Do you and your family celebrate May 5 (Liberation Day)? What does that day mean to you? What do you know about the Allied Forces?
- Do you know how many Dutch Jews were killed? Do you know how the Dutch did in terms of saving Jews (compared to other countries)? Do you know stories of people who saved or betrayed Jews?
- Do you know the controversy of the KLM and Prince Bernhard allegedly helping Nazis escape after the war?
Feelings towards Germany:
- How do you or your family feel towards Germans or Germany?
- Do you ever hear any stereotypes about Germans? Do you ever hear the word "German" used pejoratively and if so when?
Anti-Semitism:
- Do you know any Jewish people? Have you ever had Jewish children in your class?
- Have you learned about anti-Semitism in school?
- Do you ever hear people make anti-Semitic comments? Do you think there is anti-Semitism in the Ajax-Feyenoord rivalry?
Hallo American students from University of Michigan Ann Arbor.
ReplyDeleteWelcome to this blog.
Our Dutch students from Zernike College Groningen Holland love to read your posts and they really like to talk to you about things they know about Anne Frank, Holocoust and World War II, feelings towards Germany and anti-semitism.
The also have some questions to you, because they love to know how is life at your University in the United States.
I look forward reading all your posts.
Simone Toebosch
1. How much do you know about Anne Frank and her story/her diary? Have you read her diary or parts of it? Did you read it in school?
ReplyDeleteWe know a lot about it because we had this subject at History. We didn’t read her Diary but we would like to read it.
2. Have you ever been to the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam? Has your family been there?
Yes. We have been there in the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam with our family’s. It really impressed us because it’s unlikely that a girl from our age lived there during the war.
3. Would you say that Anne Frank is a famous historic figure in your country? Do you hear her name mentioned a lot?
Yes, everybody knows about Anne Frank because it’s a special story. If we talk about the second war everybody thinks of Anne Frank and her family. Her name isn’t often mentioned, only if we talk about this subject at History.
Holocaust and World War II:
1. Do your parents or grandparents ever talk about the war still? Have you learned about the Holocaust in school? What have you learned?
Our family don’t talk about the war anymore because they haven’t experienced . We’ve learned a lot about the Holocaust, it’s a very famous thing. We know that it’s horrible what happened with Jewish people in the war.
2. How much have the war and the Holocaust impacted your life and life in your country?
It impressed us but it didn’t changed our lives. And we think that the rest of Holland thinks the same way.
3. Do you and your family celebrate May 5 (Liberation Day)? What does that day mean to you? What do you know about the Allied Forces?
Yes, on May 5th we have a Festival in every big city in Holland with music and treats. It means that we go to the festival with friends every year and have a great day. We know that the Allied Forces have liberated us.
4. Do you know how many Dutch Jews were killed? Do you know how the Dutch did in terms of saving Jews (compared to other countries)? Do you know stories of people who saved or betrayed Jews?
We know that 6 million Jews were killed including children. We know that a lot of people make there house available for people who want to hide themselves. We know the story of Miep Gies who had Anne Frank and her family in her house behind a secret door behind a closet.
5. Do you know the controversy of the KLM and Prince Bernhard allegedly helping Nazis escape after the war?
We don’t know much about this subject.
Feelings towards Germany:
1. How do you or your family feel towards Germans or Germany?
We like Germany. We both went to the big Primark in Bremen. There is also an airport where we take the airplane for our Holidays. We also went to Berlin, it’s a wonderful city. Germans are very nice and social. Holland and Germany are almost the same.
2. Do you ever hear any stereotypes about Germans? Do you ever hear the word "German" used pejoratively and if so when?
Yes, we heard stereotypes about Germans because everybody knows what they did it the past.
Anti-Semitism:
1. Do you know any Jewish people? Have you ever had Jewish children in your class?
We don’t know any Jewish people and we don’t have Jewish people in our class.
2. Have you learned about anti-Semitism in school?
Yes, we’ve learned about it in school that people in the past don’t like the Jewish religion. We’re glad that everybody can have their own religion this time.
3. Do you ever hear people make anti-Semitic comments? Do you think there is anti-Semitism in the Ajax-Feyenoord rivalry?
We don’t hear specific comments. Ajax and Feyenoord are both good clubs with a high level so it’s always a ‘fight’ who wins.
It was a pleasure to answer all your questions.
Greets from Holland!
Lotte Langerhuizen & Minou Pichel
Laila van Embden Andres & Jamilla Noija.
ReplyDeleteAnne Frank.
1. Yess, we do know a lot of things about Anne Frank. Because we learn things about her at school and it all happend in our country. We both haven't read her diary but Laila has the book at home.
2. Laila has been to the Anne Frank house when she was 13 years old. She went with her family. Jamilla has never been in the Anne Frank house, but her family did go.
3. Yes, she is a little bit famous in our country but you hear her more at school then in normal life.
Holocaust and World War II.
1. Laila her grandparents talk sometimes about World War II, but not very often. Jamilla her grandparents never talk about the war. Yes, we do learn about the Holocaust in school, like how it started and what the consequences were for The Netherlands.
2. The holocaust hasn't impacted our life at all. But it impacted The Netherlands. There are still remnants here.
3. At may 5 there is a festival in The Netherlands. We both go there every year, to celebrate. There is a lot of music and fun at the festival. That day doesn't mean a lot to us but we do like the festival and we just celebrate the fact that we're liberated from the Germans. About the Allied Forces we don't know much.
4. There are 102.000 Dutch Jews that were killed at war. We don't know anything about how the Dutch saved Jews in terms. We do know people that are saved because we saw some movies about people who were saved from the concentration camp. But we don't know them by person.
5. We don't know anything about the controversy of the KLM and Prince Bernhard allegedly helping the Nazis escape after the war.
Feelings towards Germany.
1. We don't like Germans a lot but we do like to shop in Germany.
2. Yes, we do her any stereotypes about Germans. We do hear the word 'German' as a negativ name to someone. When they're in a fight or they're mad or something.
Anti-Semitism.
1. We don't any any Jewish people. And we haven't had Jewish children in our class.
2. Yes, we have learned about anti-Semitism in school. When we talked about war.
3. We only hear people make anti-Semitism comments in the Ajax-Feyenoord rivalry.
Anne Frank
ReplyDelete1. We know pretty much about Anne Frank, we didn't read her diary.
2. Yes, i have been in the Anne Frank house.
3. Yes, we learned a lot about her at school.
Holocaust and World War II:
1. Our grandparents don't talk about it but we learned about it in school. We learned how it began, how Hitler took over diffrent countries, about the concentration camp and how it ends.
2. In the first years after the war it had a big impact to the people lifes, now almost 50 years later we only learned about it in school but it hasn't a big impact to our lifes.
3. We celebrate freedom with a festival. We know who they are.
4. We know that a lot of Jews people are killed for no reason but we don't know exactly how many. We heared stories about people who tried to save Jewish people. but we don't know them.
5. No
Feelings towards Germany:
1. We don't like them but we also don't hate them. Not only because the war but also because they are strange people and they don't like to talk to us.
2. We heared that a lot of German people are weird, strange, the older Germans are fat, they are always red if they are sun bathing. Sometimes we say "you German" if we are mad.
The most German people we met are very weird.
Anti-Semitism:
1. Yes, we know Jewish people. Some people in our family are Jews.
2. Yes, three weeks ago for this project.
3. Yes, there is a song with anti-Semitic comments. We don't think that there is anti-Semitism in the Ajax-Feyenoord rivalry because they didn't mean to hurt anybody. It is just a song we used in soccer.
Our questions:
The war:
1. Do you feel intimidate as a Jew?
2. What do you know about the war? And what do you learned about it in school?
3. Has the war a big impact to your life?
4.
Anti-Semitism:
1. Do you know Anti-Semitism in your country?
2. In whitch way?
3. Do you know the songs from the soccer club Ajax? How do you think about it.
The life in Amerika:
1. Do you like the college life?
2. How is the weather?
School:
1. Do you enjoy the subject Amsterdam, and what do you learned?
2. Do you ever want to go to Amsterdam and why?
lots of love,
Kim Hiariej and Freya Buisman.
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DeleteHi Kim and Freya,
DeleteI enjoyed reading your responses and I would like to provide some answers to your questions.
The war:
1. I am actually not Jewish. I took this class because I was interested in learning more about Anne Frank and the Holocaust.
2. When I was younger, I learned about the war a lot in history class. We learned about Anne Frank, read her diary, and learned about the concentration camps. In this class, I have learned a lot more about the war, including a lot about the history of Holland before and during WWII.
3. The war has not directly impacted my life. I had no family members that fought in the war.
Anti-Semitism:
1 and 2. Ann Arbor, Michigan, which is where we all live, is a city that is very tolerant of other people. I have many Jewish friends and I have not heard of them experiencing any Anti-Semitism here.
3. We just read an article about the Ajax soccer club songs. I think it is extremely surprising. We do not have anything compared to that in America.
Life in America
1. I love college life. I am a senior, meaning I am going to graduate from college in May. I live in a house with five other roommates. There is a lot of activities for us to do on campus. One of my favorite things to do is go to football games to watch our team play.
2. In Michigan, we have had one of the harshest winters in a very long time this year. In fact, we got about 5 inches of snow last night! Earlier in the semester we actually received a day off of school because the temperatures were so cold, I think it got down to -25°F with wind chill! I can't wait until the weather gets nicer, the summer time is beautiful here in Michigan.
School:
1. I really enjoy this class about Anne Frank and the Holocaust. I took this class for fun because I was interested in learning more. So far, it has been one of my favorite courses.
2. I would love to go to Amsterdam. I have actually never been anywhere in Europe, so I think it would be great to take a trip there.
Hello Maggie,
DeleteWe forgot to introduce ourself.
Hi my name is Kim Hiariej and i am 17 years old. I live with my parents and 2 dogs. I have 3 sisters and 1 brother who are a lot older than me. My hobby's are chillin' and sleeping. I have a boyfriend for almost 8 months. I also collect stamps.
Hi my name is Freya Buisman and i live in Groningen. I'm 16 years old. I live with my parents, my brother and my dog. My hobbies are hanging out with my friends, going to a party and playing field hockey. I also go to a book club in my freetime.
Hey Kim and Freya!
DeleteI enjoyed reading your responses to our questions! It's really cool to learn about the holocaust and then have students from the Netherlands give input on their personal experiences on the subject.
I'll start by introducing myself. My name is Paola Camarena, I was born in Mexico but moved to the U.S at the age of two. I am a sophomore at the University of Michigan (second year) and I study business. I have two sisters; Michelle who's 20 and Diana who's 15, and then there's me 19 and the middle child. I love to draw, dance and watch movies with friends. I also have a dog, Manchas which is spanish for spots. I currently live with my sister and two other roommates, but I do miss home sometimes.
It was very nice meeting you and I would love to answer your questions.
The war:
1. Do you feel intimidate as a Jew?
I am not Jewish, but I have many friends that are. Even my boyfriend is Jewish and I think that instead of being intimidated about the fact that he is Jewish he is proud.
2. What do you know about the war? And what do you learned about it in school?
In school we basically learn more about the United States role during the war and the effects of the holocaust. It wasn't until I took this course that I was able to get insight on the war through an internal perspective.
3. Has the war a big impact to your life?
No, the war really didn't have an impact on my life. Overall I just think it is something that every human can reflect on and try to avoid the chances of it repeating.
Anti-Semitism:
1. Do you know Anti-Semitism in your country?
In my country there is plenty of diversity, people have learned to accept each others differences.
3. Do you know the songs from the soccer club Ajax? How do you think about it.
I read an article about this, I was very surprised. I think rivalry amongst sports teams makes watching a sport fun, but once the rivalry is offensive it can soak up the fun of watching a game.
The life in Amerika:
1. Do you like the college life?
College is both fun and hard, but I really do love every moment of it! I've learned so much and met so many cool people that I am truly grateful to be able to attend college. There are so many things to do and learn it makes every day different. University of Michigan has tons of organizations you can be a part of, the campus is also beautiful, and the restaurants nearby are delicious!
2. How is the weather?
The weather is horrible!! There is so much snow everywhere! I fell twice this year because of the icy sidewalks. But to end on a positive note the weather should be better soon.
School:
1. Do you enjoy the subject Amsterdam, and what do you learned?
I do enjoy the class very much, like I mentioned above this class has provided me with a more internal perspective of how the war occurred. We've studied the changes Netherlands underwent and how many Jews did expect such a genocide.
2. Do you ever want to go to Amsterdam and why?
I'm actually going there this May. I am very excited to see the Anne Frank House and just learn more about the people and the culture!
1) What do you already know about Holland and Anne Frank?
ReplyDelete2) Can you describe what you learn about it at your University?
3) Why do you choose this school subject?
4) Have you ever been in Holland or Germany?
5) How do you think about Dutch and German people and their differences?
6) Is there a similar thing in your country about stereotypes like Ajax – Feyenoord?
7) Do you talk with your parents about the second war?
8) How is your life as a student? Can you describe that for us?
- Lotte Langerhuizen and Minou Pichel
Hi Lotte and Minou! I enjoyed reading your responses to our questions. Here are my answers:
Delete1. We read the Anne Frank diary in school when I was a young girl, and also learned about the the Holocaust in History classes throughout school, but I was never taught anything about Holland until this class at University.
2. I learn about many different things at University. I am a Neuroscience major so I mostly take science classes in order to one day become a doctor.
3.I chose to study Neuroscience because it will help me pursue further education to become an eye doctor.
4. I have never been to Holland or Germany.
5. I really don't know much about Dutch and German people since I've really never met any.
6. We have sports rivalries in our country like Ajax-Feyenoord, but nothing that sounds nearly as intense as yours.
7. I don't talk to my parents about World War II. I used to speak to my Grandfather about it since he participated in the war.
8. Life as a student is busy. I spend my days in different classes. Between classes I go to the library to do reading/homework for my classes. I also play Volleyball at University so I have practice for volleyball at night. On the weekends I usually study a little bit but try to relax and hang out with friends.
Kathryn Hohs
Hi Lotte and Minou. Thanks for taking the time to respond to our questions so thoughtfully.
Delete1) After about half a semester in this class on Anne Frank and Holland, I have learned a good amount about the two. Prior to this course, I only knew that Anne Frank was a girl who wrote a diary in hiding during WWII. I also had heard things about Amsterdam's liberal policies regarding drugs and prostitution.
2) We learn about the culture and history of Amsterdam and how Jews have fit into the picture there since the 1600s. We study Anne's writings and the effect they have had on the world.
3) I chose to study this topic because I am Jewish and I have never read Anne's diary or learned about the Holocaust in an in-depth way. I did not expect to learn so much about Amsterdam and Holland but am pleased with what I have learned and look forward to someday visiting the country.
4) I have never been to either country. I would love to go someday, especially because I have family in Germany. I will try to go before I graduate college.
5) I have not met that many German or Dutch people, but they seem nice! At this point, I don't believe many Germans or Dutch are anti-Semitic, but I am not sure since I haven't been to the countries. I was not aware before this class that there were tensions between German and Dutch people resulting from the war.
6) There is nothing quite like the rivalry between Ajax-Feyenoord in America. I was shocked at some of the things I heard (hissing sounds to imitate the gas chambers, fans getting tattoos of stars of david or swastiksas, etc.). There are some fierce rivalries in American sports, but they are rarely violent. One instance I remember is a fight between fans of the baseball teams the Los Angeles Dodgers and the San Francisco Giants. One Dodger fan was put into a coma by Giants fans in San Francisco. I believe he died later.
7) I don't really talk with my parents about the 2nd war. Their lives were totally unaffected by it. Sometimes I speak with my grandfather about it. He was about 16 at the time and did not have to serve, but experienced the wartime and post-war culture in America.
8) Life as a student is great. I get to learn about things that fascinate me, take interesting classes in subjects I did not know about before, and have time to see friends and be social. The weather in Michigan is very, very cold, but that does not stop anyone from doing much. I usually do most of my work during the week so I can relax and see friends on the weekend.
Thanks for your questions!
Laila van Embden Andres & Jamilla Noija.
ReplyDeleteWe would like to ask you some questions.
1. Why did you choose the subject 'Amsterdam'?
2. How is your life on a campus in America?
3. Do you know something about The Netherlands. And if you do, what do you know?
4. Do you notice something about the Holocaust in your family?
5. Do you have family who fought in the World War II? If you have, who?
6. What do you do in America when you're not at the campus or not at school?
7. How do you and your family feel towards Germans or Germany?
8. How much do you know about Anne Frank and Amsterdam?
9. Are you Jewish or do you know any Jewish people?
10.Do you ever hear people make anti-Semitic comments?
Hi Laila and Jamilla,
DeleteI enjoyed reading your responses to our questions. I particularly, found it interesting to hear about the May 5th festival.
Here are my answers to your questions:
1.Why did you choose the subject 'Amsterdam'?
The class is listed as a Dutch and Judaic studies class with the title being Anne Frank. I chose the class because I was interested in learning more about Anne Frank, but I have enjoyed learning about Amsterdam and Dutch Jewry as a whole.
2.How is your life on a campus in America?
I am a senior in college, which means this is my last year at school. I have enjoyed being in college and am sad to see it come to an end. I currently live in an apartment with two of my close friends. I take courses pertaining to my major and this semester am only taking three classes, which is a small course load.
3. Do you know something about The Netherlands. And if you do, what do you know?
Prior to this class I did not know much about the Holocaust except for Amsterdam’s legacy for partying. As I have taken the class I have come to learn a lot about the Netherlands, such as it being known for trading, immigration into the Netherlands, and the overtaking of the Netherlands by the Nazis.
4.Do you notice something about the Holocaust in your family?
I am Jewish, so growing up I had a huge understanding of the Holocaust. Most of what my family discussed pertained to your next question.
5.Do you have family who fought in the World War II? If you have, who?
A lot of my family members fought in World War II. My grandfather and all three of my great uncles fought in the war. One of my great uncles was at Pearl Harbor and luckily survived.
6.What do you do in America when you're not at the campus or not at school?
Once a semester I usually go home to see my family (I go to school in Michigan but am from Maryland, which is an 8.5 hour drive). I also spend school breaks traveling to Europe or around the US. Over the summer break I usually have a job or internship. When I leave class for the day I usually meet up with friends and attend meetings for my student groups.
7.How do you and your family feel towards Germans or Germany?
I personally do not think the Germans should be punished for their past so I feel ambivalent towards them. However, my grandfather, who I previously noted fought in World War II, has negative feelings towards the Germans. He does not come right out and say he does not like the Germans, but he does complain that his hearing aid batteries are awful because they are German made. It's from comments like this that you can tell he has ill-feelings still towards the Germans.
8.How much do you know about Anne Frank and Amsterdam?
Growing up I knew a lot about Anne Frank. I learned about her in middle school and in Hebrew School. I read her diary during this time period. Besides knowing Anne was from Amsterdam, I did not know much about the city.
9. Are you Jewish or do you know any Jewish people?
I am Jewish and have a good amount of friends who are Jewish.
10. Do you ever hear people make anti-Semitic comments?
When I was younger I used to hear people making anti-semetic jokes because they thought they were being cool. People would tell them to stop and they would. Additionally, knowing these people, I think that today they would not make these jokes. This is because they have matured and realized they were not being funny.
Hello,
ReplyDelete1. We learned a lot about Anne Frank at history classes. We learned how she lived, what she eated while she was hiding for the Nazi's. We also learned that she is betrated and how she died in Auswitsch. We learned this by books on school but we have never read her diary.
2. No we've never been there.
3. Yes she is one of the most famous historic figure of the netherlands. Almost every time that someone is talking about WO ll, they also talk about Anne Frank.
1. Sophie: My granddad doesn't wanna talk about the war and my grandmother was really little so she doesn't now a lot.
Naomi: My grandparents lived in Indonesia at that moment, so they never experienced the holocoust.
Yes we learned everything about the holocoust and WO ll.
2. It's not that we think about it every day but on the 4 of may we have 1 minute of silence in the whole country to think about the people who died. There's even a live broadcast on the Dam in Amsterdam where the King and Queen are. And on the 5 of may we celebrate that we are a free country since 5 may 1945.
3. On may 5th there's a big festival in every big city of the netherlands. We go there with all our friends and party, we try not to think about the sadness cause we have already thought about it on may 4th. We know that the Allied Forces saved us and we are really thank full that they did.
4. We know that there are 102.000 Jews people killed. The granddad of Sophie helped Jews people to hide in there farm.
5. No, we sadly don't know.
1. We like them and we don't blame them forwhat happend. It's a new generation and they can't change the past.
2. Yes people do use it like a bad word but we think it's dis respectfull and that they don't realize that it were the Nazi's and not just the German people. There are also a lot of German people in the opposition.
1. No, we don't know any Jewish people.
2. Yes we learned about it.
3. People yell anti-Semitism comments because they are mad at the other soccer team. We don't think they realize that it's dis respectfull.
Naomi Miojo
Sophie Lont
Laila van Embden Andres introduction.
ReplyDeleteMy name is Laila van Embden Andres. I was born in May 1st, 1998. So I'm 15 years old now. I live in Groningen. My parents are divorced. So I live one week at my mother and one week at my father etc. My hobbies are dancing, singing and sport.
Jamilla Noija.
My name is Jamilla Noija. I was born in November 4th, 1997. So I'm 16 years old. I live in Groningen with my mom for 3/4 years. Before that I lived in Assen & Amsterdam. I live with father in Drachten. My hobby is dancing. I dance for almost 10 years now.
1. We know the story about Anne Frank, but none of us have read the diary. Anne Frank, her family, another family and a woman were hiding behind a bookshelf. After a few years someone said they were there and they got busted. Anne Frank and the rest of her family died in a camp, only the father survived.
ReplyDelete2. Yes, we've all been there with our family. We all think it was a weird but awesome experience. You can walk through a museum and when you go upstairs, you can go through the door of the bookshelf. In the museum they're not only talking about Anne, but also about the whole holocaust.
3. We still talk about the war a lot, our grandparents were little kids during the war. At school we learn a lot about it at history class. We've learned all about the World War II, from the beginning till the end. We now know why the war took place, and when, and how, and who.
Holocaust and the World War II:
1. We still talk about the war a lot, our grandparents were little kids during the war. At school we learn a lot about it at history class. We've learned all about the World War II, from the beginning till the end. We now know why the war took place, and when, and how, and who.
2. It had a great impact at us, because now we're aware of a lot of things that happened in this world, and our country.
3. Yes, we celebrate it with a huge festival. We know about the deads and the casualties, and ofcourse we take a moment of silence on May 4th.
Lena Meijer, Kris Straatman en Marlou Noordik
Yorick Roelofs & Chris Makhoul
ReplyDeleteAnne Frank:
1. Yes we know her because it was explained in our history class and in that class almost everything is explained about her life, we haven't read her story.
2. No we haven't been to the Anne Frank house but some people of our family's did.
3. She is a famous historic figure but we don't hear people mention her a lot, only sometimes in the historyclass.
Holocaust and world war II:
1. Our grandparents sometimes tell us story's about their lifes in the war.
2. Yes, we have learned about the holocaust in school, so we know what it was and how it worked.
3. At 5 may we don't celebrate with our parents but we go to the freedomsfestival and celebrate the day with our friends. 5 may is just a free day for us.
4.. There were 102.000 jews in the Netherlands killed, we have searched this number on internet because it was never told to us. Jews were transported with trains to concentration camp and there they had to work, when they couldn't work longer, they were gassed.
5. No, we didn't heared anything about the Nazis escaping with the KLM and Prince Bermhard.
Feeling towards Germany
1. It's a little bit weird because what the Germans did in the past still has influence on how we think and talk about them. But the next Generation can't do anything about that.
2. Yes, much people say that Hitler started a war becausehe wasn't employed at the art school. A Jew didn't employed him and that was the reason he hated Jews.
So when Hollanders are in Germany,they hate them directly (Not every Hollanders, but the most do!).
Anti-Semitism:
1. No we didn't know Jewish people, but we see them a lot in the city.
2. The Jews were isolated from other people. They had to go totheir own jewish bakery and shops like that, they weren't allowed to go to german shops.
3. Yes i hear anti-Semitic comments sometimes and often against ajax, I am Yorick and i support Feyenoord and yes there is a lot anti-Semitism in the rivalry against ajax. But the supporters say that they are jews. So they call it by them selfs.
3.
Anne Frank:
ReplyDelete1.How much do you know about Anne Frank and her story/her diary? Have you read her diary or parts of it? Did you read it in school? We didn’t have to read the diary in school. But we know a lot about her and we have seen the movie.
2.Have you ever been to the Anne Frank House in Amsterdam? Has your family been there? Yes, with our family
3.Would you say that Anne Frank is a famous historic figure in your country? Do you hear her name mentioned a lot? We think she is more famous in America because you all have to read the book, but almost everyone in Holland knows her story
Holocaust and World War II:
1.Do your parents or grandparents ever talk about the war still? Have you learned about the Holocaust in school? What have you learned? No, they weren’t born or were very young. Yes we have learnt a lot about it.
2.How much have the war and the Holocaust impacted your life and life in your country? Not much
3.Do you and your family celebrate May 5 (Liberation Day)? What does that day mean to you? What do you know about the Allied Forces? Yes, there is a festival in a park with music and firework. Normally we go with friends but when we were younger we went with our family. We know that the Allied Forces rescued us and meant a lot in the war
4.Do you know how many Dutch Jews were killed? Do you know how the Dutch did in terms of saving Jews (compared to other countries)? Do you know stories of people who saved or betrayed Jews? No, we don’t know the actual number but there were a lot Jews killed. Some people in Holland helped the Jews similar to the story from Anne Frank but most people were to afraid.
5.Do you know the controversy of the KLM and Prince Bernhard allegedly helping Nazis escape after the war? No, we never have heard about it.
Feelings towards Germany:
1.How do you or your family feel towards Germans or Germany? We don’t hate the Germans but neither like them. Some of them are nice and cool. But the most are very loud en rude.
2.Do you ever hear any stereotypes about Germans? Do you ever hear the word "German" used pejoratively and if so when? Yes, they should wear Lederhosen and drink a lot of beer. But that is not true.
Anti-Semitism:
1.Do you know any Jewish people? Have you ever had Jewish children in your class?
No, we don’t know Jewish people and we haven’t have one in class
2.Have you learned about anti-Semitism in school? Yes, we learned about it during world wars projects.
3.Do you ever hear people make anti-Semitic comments? Do you think there is anti-Semitism in the Ajax-Feyenoord rivalry? Yes, we have heard about it during the football games. Most of the times when Ajax is playing, because they say they are Jews, so the opponent make anti-semitic comments.
Luca van der Leest & Myrthe van Wilgen
Our questions:
ReplyDelete1. How is the life on University?
2. Do you have people in your'e family who fight in the war?
3. Has the war influance you're life?
4. What do you already know about the Netherlands?
5. What do you know about the holocoust?
6. Do you know what happened in the concentration camps?
7. Do you know what america did in the war?
8. Has america a day that they think about WO ll?
9. How do you think about Ajax-Feyenoord?
10. Is there in your'e countre also something anti-Santism?
1. Life at the University of Michigan is great. The classes are interesting and there are so many different opportunities and events on campus from sports games to art galleries.
Delete2. I did not have any family members that fought directly in World War II
3. The impact that the war has had on my life is limited to the Holocaust. I had family members, whom I never met, that were killed in the concentration camps. If it had not been for the Holocaust, my family could have been bigger today.
4. I know about the Netherlands both from learning about it in class and visiting it myself. I traveled to Amsterdam in March of 2013. I visited the museums in the city and also the Anne Frank Huis.
5. I know a lot about the Holocaust. I learned about it through Jewish education programs, high school, and also classes I have taken at University. I know the historical narrative behind the mass exterminations and the effect that the Holocaust has had on millions of Jews.
6. Yes I know about the millions of Jews that were killed in the camps.
7. Yes, I know that America was idle for a while but finally got involved after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. They fought with the allies to liberate the concentration camps.
8. WWII to my knowledge, is not a topic that is frequently discussed. More often I hear references to the Vietnam War and the two Iraq wars.
9. I was very surprised by the Ajax- Feyenoord incidents. We do not have anything like that in America.
10. There is anti semitism in America but it is mostly limited to rude comments and vandalism. Every once in a while someone will spray paint a swastika on a synagogue or Jewish building.
Hey, thanks for the great responses - it was really interesting to read them. I didn't know May 4th and 5th were remembered in this way.
DeleteHere are answers to your questions:
1. University life in the US is very unique in that it will be what you make of it - it can be extremely hard work, or very easy, very fun and diverse or boring and mundane. There are lots of sports, clubs, organizations to get involved with, MANY many options for classes, so you really make your own experience while here.
2. No one in my immediate family fought in the war - my grandparents were just born in the '40s, and I don't know too much about my great-grandparents.
3. The war hasn't influenced my daily life more than the lives of the previous generation. It doesn't play an active role in my day-to-day thoughts, decisions, or actions, but of course, my life would probably be completely altered if the war had ended differently or had not happened.
4. Things I knew about the Netherlands... Holland, flat, Amsterdam, tulips, windmills, Dutch, Anne Frank.
5-7. I know a lot about the Holocaust because they teach about it a lot in school (more in certain states than others), but I never read the Diary. My education focused mostly on the gruesome history - political alignments, concentration camps, extermination of Jews, etc. - than on a young girl in hiding.
8. Since WWII didn't take place on US soil, the US was never liberated or anything, there isn't a day like your May 5th. Dec. 7 is Pearl Harbor Remembrance Day - the day after the US entered WWII and declared war on Japan, but even that is not a federal holiday.
9. The Ajax-Feyenoord issue didn't surprise me too much - I have been to a couple soccer matches in Russia and that was almost as scary, although not so anti-Semitic... The part that was shocking to me was that this takes place in a country where the issue has left such an impact.
10. Antisemitism exists everywhere - discrimination of all sorts exists everywhere. But the US is definitely one of the more outwardly tolerant places.
Hello! My name is Tara van Veen and I am a twenty years old. I am from Canada, but my family and I immigrated to the US.
Delete1. My life at University is great, very busy!
2. I think that my family’s history with WWII will be closer to yours than my fellow students. During World War II, all four of my grandparents lived in The Netherlands. My grandparents lived in Pijnaker, Lochem, Emmen, and Limburgh during the war.
3. I think the war has had an indirect impact on my life. After the war, all four of my grandparents decided they wanted to move to Canada. I sometimes wonder if they would have left if the war hadn’t happened.
4. Since all four of my grandparents moved from The Netherlands, I know quite a bit about the Netherlands. I have been there before, have grown up eating some Dutch foods, and have listened to stories of my grandparents’ lives there.
5. The majority of the things I have learned about The Holocaust are things my parents taught me or things I learned in school. My parents encouraged me to read Elie Wiesel’s “Night” and Anne Frank’s diary. In elementary school we went to a Holocaust museum. In high school, I did a project on The Holocaust and went to the museum again. Now, I am taking another course on The Holocaust.
6. Yes, throughout my education I have seen many of the horrors of the concentration camps.
7. I know less of the specifics that America did in the war and more of what the allied troops did. Since my Dad’s mother lived in Limburgh and she had a very different experience than my other grandparents had during WWII. While my other grandparents were struggling during the Hunger Winter, my Oma had a lot of food because the cellar of their home became a mess hall for the allied troops.
8. We kind of have a day to celebrate WWII, which is Pearl Harbor Day. This is on December 7th. Aside from this, we do not have a specific holiday specifically focused on WWII.
9. I was shocked about the Ajax-Feyenoord rivalry and the actions done by fans.
10. I think that there is anti-Semitism all over the world. I have heard offensive Jewish “jokes” but it is not something I encounter every day.
DeleteHi, My name is Laurenne and I am a freshman at the University of Michigan.
1. Life at University is very different from anything I have ever experienced before. You have to work very hard to keep up and get good grades at school. There are always things going on around campus, which makes University very fun.
2. Yes, all four of my grandparents were in World War 2. Many people in my family perished during the Holocaust.
3. It has influenced my life because I learn from my grandparents not to take life for granted. Every day I am with them I think about their parents and or siblings that could have been with us today if it weren’t for the war. Growing up with grandparents that went through the war makes your more sensitive to anti-Semitism.
4. What I know about the Netherlands is strictly from what I learned from this class. I learned that World War 2 also occurred in the Netherlands and Anne Frank lived there too.
5. I know a lot about the Holocaust but not nearly enough as I want to know. You can always know more. I have been to Poland three times and have visited many different cities, ghettos, concentration camps, death camps, and more. I have learned about Hitler, Gebt, and many more powerful figures during that time.
6. Yes, I do know what happened in the concentration camps. Horrible things. From movies and stories from Holocaust survivors I have learned.
7. America only came in at the end to liberate the camps. They weren’t there for a long time. If they had helped earlier many people would still be alive.
8. No America only has Remembrance Day for the veterans. This can relate to the holocaust but it isn’t a day that we remember World War 2. In Judaism there is a day where we remember the holocaust.
9. I think that that is very scary. I didn’t know that anti-Semitism to that degree was still going on today especially in a place like the Netherlands.
10. In America there is Anti-Semitism that still goes on. I haven’t heard anything so bad like anything that happened in the Holocaust but there are still instances where it happens.
Hi Naomi,
DeleteHi, I’m Peng. I’m born and raised in Malaysia, and currently studying at University of Michigan as an international student.
University life is great. Unlike in high school, we are given more responsibility and work ownership. The classes are relatively tougher, but it is manageable. I don’t have any family members who fought in war. Being born in Malaysia, I am not very often exposed to any issues related to war. Our education system focus on Malaysia history, and thus I wasn’t too aware of how war impacted my life. Before the class, I just know Netherland as a very small country. Sadly, that’s about it.
I knew about Holocaust when I was watching the movie “the boy in pajamas” 5 years ago with my host family here in Ohio, USA. I remembered tearing after the movie and commented, “I’m glad this is not true”. My host parent looked at me, and was very surprised with my reaction. We had a discussion about it, and that’s how I learnt.
I am only aware about concentration camps after taking this class. It is very sad to see how this cruel history actually exists among human beings -Mass killings, forced labor and extreme mental torture. Like other country, I believe USA wasn’t exposed too much of what was really going on in these concentration camps in the earlier phase. I believe they have taken what’s necessary since then.
Ajax-Fayenoord is crazy! I googled it online, and am whaw-ed by the photos, readings etc. People really take the extreme to the other extreme level. I believe discrimination still exist in the world we are living in right now. However, I am confident that any anti-semitism is publicly critized and it’s not legal.
1. No, i did not read the Anne Frank diary or parts of it, i watched the movie.
ReplyDelete2.No , i've never been there. But think once i'll go there. I dont know if my family has been there guess so.
3. Yes i think she is a famous historic figure, because her diary is translated in many languages and many times soled, also she is manished in our history book at school and she is common on tv.
1. Yes , i've learned about it at school.I think it is a important happening to learn and important to be remined that it is possible that people can be so stupid. Somethimes my dad talks about it, but my grandparents doesn't like tot talk about it.
2. It did not have impact on me because i did not live during that war. The impact on the country are for example: the old building that are destroyed, or a whole city like rotterdam. Also there is more ratio than before.
3. Yes we celebrate 5 may, every year there is a festival as celebration for freedom. In every
County there is a festival on 5 may. What i know about the allied firces forces is that they liberate the occupide teretories.
4. No i dont know, i think a lot. But i know in polen were the most killed. I dint know someone who helped them but i have seen movies about it. And i read books about it.
5. No i did not know that.
1. Normal, they are human too. There is a newgeneration, it ewould be strange if we say that their stupid bevause because of what they did. Caus not all the german people did horrible things, and the people who did that are old now.
2. Yes there are stereotypes, fat people who deink beer all day. But i dont see them like that.
1. No i dont know jewish people, but my violin teatcher's grandna was jewish. There arent many jewish people here because in the world war the most where killed. The most who survived , escaped to Amerika that is why there are so many jewish people in Amerika.
2. Yes u heard about it in history class. It is horrible.
3. No i never heard that. But i heard rasism comments about collor. But that is almost never happening. I'm not into socker so i dont know anything about that.
My name is inda, i live in Groningen that is the nirth of the netherlands. I m really into music. I want to go to the concervatorium, i love tot sing jazz music and i play violin. I got two little brothers and two sisters. My grandparents lived in the world war, my grandmother lost her brother an her mother beacause if the many boms that were dropped in rotterdam. My grandma was born in 1921 so she was a teenager during the war. My grandpa had to fight fir the german people, but he escaped, my grandmas friends and family also escaped from the soldiers when they had to fight.
Hi, I am Chris,15 years old and I live in Paterswolde with my brother, sister, mom and dog.
ReplyDeleteHello, I am Yorick Roelofs and I am 16 years old. I live in Groningen with my parents, my 2 little brothers, my cat and my brothers rabbit. I play soccer and I sport a lot.
Hi, I am Sophie. I am 15 years old and I live in Groningen with my little brother and my parents. I play Hockey.
ReplyDeleteHi, I am Naomi. I am 16 years old and i live in Groningen with my brother and parents. I dance.
4. There were 6 million Jews killed in World War 2. We also know that people made their house available for Jews on the run, the story about Anne Frank is an example of that.
ReplyDelete5. We don't know much about that subject.
Feelings towards Germany:
1. my parents (Lena) go to Germany on a little vacation almost every weekend, they think it's beautiful and the people are really nice. my parents (Marlou) don't judge people, they think they are nice people. My parents (Kris) also think that Germans are great people. We think that Germans are really nice and generous human beings.
2. no.
Anti-Semitism
1. we don't know any Jewish people, and we don't have Jewish children in our class.
2. Yes, we’ve learned about it in school that people in the past don’t like the Jewish religion. We’re glad that everybody can have their own religion this time.
3. We don’t hear specific comments. Ajax and Feyenoord are both good clubs with a high level so it’s always a ‘fight’ who wins.
Questions:
ReplyDelete- How is your life as a student?
- Why did you choose for lessons about the Netherlands?
- What do you think to talk about Anne Frank and the second World War?
- why did you choose the class about Anne Frank?
- What do you know about Anne Frank?
Hello, my name is Margo and I am a senior at the University of Michigan!
Delete1. My life as a student is great and very rewarding! The University of Michigan is one of the largest universities in the world. The campus is always exciting with people, sporting events, current political events, and so much more!
2. When I decided to take this course, I wanted to learn more about Anne Franke and the historical context and implications of WWII. Growing up, I read and learned so much about Anne Frank, but only through a Jewish perspective. I wanted to broaden my view and understanding of this war and complicated time.
3. I think that Anne Frank was a sweet young girl, growing up in extreme discrimination and oppression. Although it is tragic how she passed t Bergen-Belsen just a few weeks before liberation, she has left her mark on society and history forever.
4. Overall, as a Jewish young woman and a positive and active member of society, I think that it is imperative for every person to appreciate, learn, and understand the grave mistakes of WWII. If so then we can make sure never to have it repeated in history, which is most important to accept and tolerate everyone, regardless of religion or race.